tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post3781802411784324545..comments2024-01-25T01:05:59.968-05:00Comments on WebDiarios de Motocicleta: JobsMihaihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11599372864611039927noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-12710882527919126652008-06-11T21:39:00.000-04:002008-06-11T21:39:00.000-04:00My first comment on Mihai's blog... right when the...My first comment on Mihai's blog... right when they're talking about salaries. How's that for a, umm, coincidence :-)<BR/><BR/>In industry, the numbers from FormerTheoryGradStudent are on the low side indeed, for Seattle/ Bay Area at least. Google should be 110K-115K for top school Ph.D. + many perks. MS (not MSR!) is around 100K in Seattle for top school BS + 4 years of experience; now Ph.D. = BS + more than 4 years; and if we'd be talking MSR Bay Area, it should beat 120K, especially since there's Google right down the road. (I'm with Google now BTW, my wish-website is just outdated).<BR/><BR/>I'm somewhat surprised about the academia salaries though, I thought they'd be somewhat lower. Interesting.<BR/><BR/>Congrats Mihai. Knowing you, I bet you'd make a heck of a professor/ researcher; AT&T got lucky.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-88703885466560136262008-05-28T14:30:00.000-04:002008-05-28T14:30:00.000-04:00McGregor -> UMassVershynin -> MichiganYekhanin -> ...McGregor -> UMass<BR/>Vershynin -> Michigan<BR/>Yekhanin -> MSR SVCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-72768978938021505252008-05-26T12:14:00.000-04:002008-05-26T12:14:00.000-04:00For somewhat obvious reasons, my data points are f...For somewhat obvious reasons, my data points are for somebody fresh out of grad school :) <BR/><BR/>Like the last anonymous is pointing out, these numbers are probably only valid in the top-10, and tend to drop after that. (I only know a couple of salaries from friends outside the top 10, and they are some 10-15k smaller...)Mihaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11599372864611039927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-40711303565552380252008-05-26T01:14:00.000-04:002008-05-26T01:14:00.000-04:00That's interesting! I'm actually aware that my est...That's interesting! I'm actually aware that my estimates may be under by some $5-10K (which would be consistent e.g. with $110K 12-month for public universities), but $15-20K is quite surprising!<BR/><BR/>MiP: Just to clarify, we're all referring to starting pay for someone fresh out of grad school or perhaps after a year or two of post-doc?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-23531197118332560862008-05-25T09:16:00.000-04:002008-05-25T09:16:00.000-04:00former theory grad student, your numbers do indeed...former theory grad student, your numbers do indeed seem a bit low.<BR/><BR/>Here are my data points, based on hires I am aware of in the past year or two:<BR/><BR/>public university: $110K (12 month -- but you are right that faculty, especially in theory, do not often get paid all 12 months. Note also that this figure refers to "top tier" schools, I am sure the nationwide average would be lower)<BR/><BR/>Google: $105K and up (but don't forget other perks, including stock options but also non-monetary ones)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-10131879955258224682008-05-25T00:01:00.000-04:002008-05-25T00:01:00.000-04:00Based on my own experience, your numbers (across t...Based on my own experience, your numbers (across the board) are too low by some 15-20k. How's that for divulging information? :)Mihaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11599372864611039927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-88582379260300067722008-05-24T23:57:00.000-04:002008-05-24T23:57:00.000-04:00It's a bit of a shame that these numbers are quite...It's a bit of a shame that these numbers are quite guarded, but my impression is that the figures are roughly as follows:<BR/><BR/>academic public university $75K (9-month)<BR/><BR/>academic private university $85K (9-month)<BR/><BR/>research lab (e.g. IBM, Microsoft) $120K<BR/><BR/>google $95K (with a PhD)<BR/><BR/>Couple caveats:<BR/><BR/>* I'm not sure how often academics actually manage to obtain a full 12-month salary. NSF maxes out at a 11-month salary.<BR/><BR/>* There's usually more room for negotiation at private universities and can go up much more.<BR/><BR/>You can find additional statistics at:<BR/><BR/>http://www.cra.org/statistics/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-1834714825597409362008-05-23T13:44:00.000-04:002008-05-23T13:44:00.000-04:00I was positively impressed by the salaries in acad...I was positively impressed by the salaries in academia. The annualized salaries were <I>signficantly</I> above 100k (you know the system -- the university pays 9 months, and grants etc pay the rest).<BR/><BR/>The salaries from labs were indeed higher by some 20k, but I think TCS researchers don't care about money enough to notice such a difference.<BR/><BR/>Of course, the salaries would've seemed much higher before the dollar collapse in recent years :)Mihaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11599372864611039927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-51620743553345089102008-05-23T08:11:00.000-04:002008-05-23T08:11:00.000-04:00Can you comment on the salaries you were offered i...Can you comment on the salaries you were offered in academia vs industry?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-85435768907503801872008-05-21T02:46:00.000-04:002008-05-21T02:46:00.000-04:00Hi Mihai.I guess it is obvious that you did not ye...Hi Mihai.<BR/><BR/>I guess it is obvious that you did not yet find the job you wanted and deserved (i.e. a tenure-track position in one of the top-3/4 universities). <BR/><BR/>The job market in theory is amazingly competitive. And as you know it's also a matter of how popular (game theory?) - as opposed to how important/fundamental/useful/? - what you do is, in what area the top departments are looking to hire (which is very related to the former), etc.<BR/><BR/>Anyways, congratulations and kotgw.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-17356191980515228822008-05-20T16:07:00.000-04:002008-05-20T16:07:00.000-04:00Asaf Shapira is going to Georgia Tech, on a joint ...Asaf Shapira is going to Georgia Tech, on a joint position between Maths and CS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-75764006383249678852008-05-19T13:58:00.000-04:002008-05-19T13:58:00.000-04:00The new Microsoft lab in Cambridge (MA) steals Yae...The new Microsoft lab in Cambridge (MA) steals Yael and Adam Kalai.<BR/><BR/>Tasos Sidiropoulos goes to a postdoc at Toronto.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-91449059650566400612008-05-19T13:17:00.000-04:002008-05-19T13:17:00.000-04:00Thanks for the link to ATT's theory group. For com...Thanks for the link to ATT's theory group. For completeness, here is a link to IBM's theory group:<BR/><BR/>http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/disciplines/pm/Mihaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11599372864611039927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-45924780180098285422008-05-19T07:53:00.000-04:002008-05-19T07:53:00.000-04:00Well, this is a link to the theory group of AT&T -...Well, this is a link to the theory group of AT&T - quite strong in my opinion:<BR/><BR/>http://www.research.att.com/~dsj/algs/people.phpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-53383786832968492142008-05-18T16:29:00.000-04:002008-05-18T16:29:00.000-04:00Which theorists are at AT&T? (This is not meant as...Which theorists are at AT&T? (This is not meant as a knock in any way, I am just unaware of more than 1-2 people there.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-38040933230664299932008-05-17T18:55:00.000-04:002008-05-17T18:55:00.000-04:00Parikshit Gopalan is going to Microsoft Silicon Va...Parikshit Gopalan is going to Microsoft Silicon Valley.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-76189526952085675232008-05-17T14:51:00.000-04:002008-05-17T14:51:00.000-04:00Razborov --> U ChicagoDaskalakis --> MITHarvey -->...Razborov --> U Chicago<BR/><BR/>Daskalakis --> MIT<BR/><BR/>Harvey --> WaterlooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786333285568106173.post-64415544697928748582008-05-17T08:43:00.000-04:002008-05-17T08:43:00.000-04:00Good luck in your new job!Good luck in your new job!Florin Maneahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17502207916966498744noreply@blogger.com